In chapter seven it says, "Now that his physical voice was silent, the inner voice of reason, and other voices too, made themselves heard." What is the voice that Ralph is listening to? How is able to hear it only when he falls silent? What lesson can we all learn from Ralph and Simon.
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I think that Ralph is listening to the voice of the beast within him, at least when you are talking about the physical part. It is his desire for power. The voice is also not focused on anyone but itself. It wants Ralph to do what is best for him and not what is best for the community. As a leader it is Ralph’s responsibility to take care of his community and in order to do that he needs to turn of the power hungry voice. He is not able to reason and figure out what to do when “the beast” is telling him to do whatever he can to get power.
In chapter 7 I think that his inner beast was at his worst in Ralph. For the most part he has been able to control the voice and reason things out. I thought it was interesting that he was able to notice the savage that was controlling him in that small amount of time when Jack was not able to. I think that fact that he has not actually become savage during his time on the island says a lot about the kind of person he is. He has to be very aware of how his actions are affecting others. I hope that I am as aware as Ralph. People often forget to see how others react to the way they are acting or even just how they are affected.
Simon on the other hand does not have a lot of power and “the beast” has not yet come out in him. I think that he handles everything by just taking time to himself. I wish that more people were able to do that. He does not let everything that is going on make him power hungry he is more of the go with the flow type. Though it is not always the best way to go through life, I think that Simon just avoiding conflict is best for him in the long run.
Ralph’s inner voice is his true self, his conscious, telling him to make the decisions that suit his own personality and morals. This would be a decision that would help the hole community, not just himself. This would be the more unselfish choice to make, but it would also be the harder choice. Ralph has usually made his decisions by listening to his inner voice, but in chapter seven we see Ralph become more of a savage and his decisions become less like himself and more like Jack. I think that the “other voices” are the voices of the beast and they are trying to compel him to listen. This would be a decision that would benefit just himself, and not the whole community. I think that Ralph would like to listen to this voice because it is the easier one to make; it takes less effort and it would make you rise to power. This is the voice that Jack has been listening to, it makes him into someone who is not actually himself, it makes him a savage; but this also gives Jack power.
I think that if we see what decisions Ralph makes we can also see the consequences. We can see what happens if he chooses to follow his inner voice or if he chooses to follow the other voices. I think that benefits and weaknesses will come from both decisions and what you must do is compare them and see which voice is better to follow.
I think that who we can learn the most from though is Simon. Simon has not let the beast affect him, I don’t know if this is because he hasn’t heard the beast, or because he doesn’t listen to it, but either way he is not influenced by the beast. Because of this he doesn’t have power and he isn’t very popular among the boys, but he is the most at home and natural among everyone at the island. The island has not changed or influenced him.
I think we all have a voice of reason that we know we should listen to, but sometimes we ignore this voice because other things get in the way. Laziness, anger, and many other things tell us to ignore what we know is right. We heed these things because it is our body’s instinct to follow them. Our inner voice of reason tells us what we know is right by society and our own standards.
Ralph was caught up in the excitement of being in a new place, with no parents, and being the leader of a group of boys. This is why he wasn’t depressed to realize that they would probably be spending a really, really long time on the island. Now that he has gotten over the excitement of being in a new setting, and has realized that there group does not have the ability to maintain a productive and fair society. After he came to this conclusion, his mentality towards everything changed. He became more depressed, angrier, and he even questioned his ability to lead. With the failure of the group, he believed he also had failed. With this failure he lost confidence in himself, and started to fall back on what he used to follow, his voice of reason.
I think Simon on the other hand listened to his inner voice from the start. He unlike Ralph never got caught up in the excitement of being away from society. He realized right from the beginning that he could not rely on the others to effectively govern them selves in a way that he agreed with. So he retreated into his own body, the only thing he understood, the only thing he could trust, and the only thing that was at peace.
I think both Simon and Ralph are good examples of those people who give up on society. I know personally I have always doubted so many things about society that sometimes I don’t know if I can take it anymore. There is so much hate, so much ignorance, and so much stupidity that sometimes I feel like I can’t take it anymore. Sometimes I wish that everything was difference that everyone was given a second chance to change how this world is. But I don’t think that any of this is realistic, and so I simply try to accept it and ignore the constant tugging of my emotions, pushing them down. I know some day they will explode but until that day I am just going to try to keep going.
Ralph listens to the voice inside of him that is driving his power hungry self. Every time he falls silent this voice comes out making him fear many things. This voice haunts Ralph and makes him afraid of the voice. No one knows how to control it or how to deal with it, but only how to let it grow on them and create fear. Their minds trick them into believing that there is some sort of beast in the forest when really the beast is inside of them. The beast talks to Ralph and all the other children. Each and every one of them experiences their own personal beasts that they have to try and beat. The beast doesn’t affect everyone as harshly as others. Some are alone more often therefore seeing and hearing the beast more than most do. Others don’t feel that aloneness and sadness therefore not bringing out their beast. The beast brings out the fear of the unknown. The unknown is the worst fear that all the children face.
Silence brings the beast out of the children. Silence allows the children to believe in the beast and see the beast in front of them. The beast only comes alive when the children are silent. Silence allows the beast to be noticed by all the children. Silence draws the fear out of the children and makes them believe in it. They see things that aren’t necessarily there, but they still fear it. Their fear distracts them and allows them to waste valuable time that is needed.
Ralph and Simon teach us a lot of lessons from the Lord of the Flies. They teach us the need for power that a lot of people have. Ralph’s need of power is more than Simon’s. They teach us that you need to listen to other people’s ideas and opinions and then make your decision. They teach us to accept everyone because everyone has a valuable idea. Ralph and Simon not only teach us a lot about the people they are, but about what a good leader is.
Ralph is listening to the voice of his human nature. Instead of listening to the voice of society, telling him how things should be, he is starting to listen to his human instincts. He is listening to the voice that allows him to naturally know how to survive in the wild. Before he was influenced by society’s proper manners, and appearance, he is starting to have the wisdom of knowing how to live without the help from stuck up people teaching him unimportant things. This voice that Ralph is listening to is also bringing out her natural instincts of wanting power. Of wanting to be a leader. Of wanting to be the alpha. He is striving for the power over the other kids on the island. Like society, many people want power, government officials, there are fights for power in society, and there are fights for power between Ralph and Jack. Along with this I think that Ralph is also listening to a voice telling him to be more aware, and more brave so he can protect the other kids on the island. His true instinct to keep everyone safe from harm is coming out because of this new voice that is no longer effected by society. I also think the voice that Ralph is listening to is the beast within him. His true fears are coming out now that society is not there to laugh at him for them. I think his fears of failure are really showing. He doesn’t want to fail getting power. He doesn’t want to fail protecting the children on the island. He doesn’t want any of them to die. He doesn’t want to fail by staying on the island, and not getting rescued. Ralph’s inner instincts helping him to survive on the island, and help keep everyone else survive as well.
Ralph lets out his voice, I think because he is losing his want to be chief and this is affecting the leadership, responsible characteristics. I think he is letting the voices out because of his fear to lose power, to lose leadership and most importantly the position of chief. Jack's voice towards Ralph is persuasive, and unavoidable because of the curiosity, but also to prove that he is as able as Jack and maybe even better. His thoughts are more towards being defensive and not to show any feeble side of him in order to keep the respect that he should deserve but also to fight back towards Jack and reassure that Jack is wrong about many things. I think Ralph is intimidated by Jack in some way of losing power. Ralph loves the power he has, but he has the fear of Jack taking that power and I think that is where the fear comes from- The power- its not only his natural stature and voice to everyone else, but its also the fear from losing it, which brings up the fear that is lying inside him. There is a sense of fear and courage during Ralph’s true moments on the island, but the one thing you see changing is his voice. He is losing his voice in deciding things, not many people listen to him and everything else goes downward. In part we see that Ralph’s beast is not just his fear alone which is he himself but in several ways we see that Ralph’s fear also comes from losing the power that he has which is the beast (fear) itself. I think the way that Ralph is losing his physical voice is because of his fear subduing him which is also creating the loss of his power and creating a whole new fear that arises from losing his voice to speak.
I think there is a huge difference between your inner voice and your outer voice. Your outer voice is what you actively say to someone or how people hear you. You sometimes use your outer voice as a cover-up or as shield so people don’t know your true feelings. Sometimes most people or I don’t let their inner voice speak because it will hurt someone’s feelings. This is okay to use to make people feel good, but this is not being true and sincere. In Lord of the Flies, Ralph’s inner voice is very confused. It is torn between doing the right thing for the whole group, and being accepted by the hunters.
Your inner voice is your conscious talking. The inner voice is your true feelings about what you think or feel of someone. This is the voice that defines who you really are. You would be 100% genuine and not phony if you always listened and said what your inner voice told you, but sometimes that would hurt other people and that might not be the right thing to do. In a sports game on the street it would not be wise to only talk from your inner voice, because you might offend someone, and then put your physical well being in jeopardy. A lot of politicians talk without their inner voice, and only use their outer voice to get elected, and don’t talk from their heart. I think Jack covered up himself from being scared and only used his outer voice. I do not think once Jack used his inner voice in an attempt to look like the strongest or toughest.
I don’t always talk from my inner voice as well in some situations, so I do not offend people or mad people angry. I agree with Mareesa that Ralph and everyone in fact, has a beast within them. It tells you what you want to do, but that is not always the right thing to do.
The voice Ralph is listening to is the voice of nature, and the voice of his natural self. In this moment when his physical voice--the voice of his hunger for power--is silenced, he is able to hear the innermost part of himself. I believe this voice tells him the truth about the boys' situation on the island, and the dire need to keep the fire alive in order to survive. Both he and Simon realize through listening to the "inner voice of reason" that the fire is the tool to see through the darkness; to realize that their fear is what creates the beast. Both Simon and Ralph are able to recognize the fear, while the others aren't able to because they don't listen to their inner voice. I think that in order to recognize the beast and the darkness, they must find this voice within themselves or else they won't be able to free themselves from fear. The inner voice is, in this way, the fire that can light their way so that they can live like Simon--one with their surroundings and accepting life on the island, but also retaining hope of rescue. However when this fire is let out, chaos erupts and they aren't able to recognize and deal with their fear. Like Simon and Ralph, they must learn to drain out their greed for power in order to live more at peace with one another and with the island.
Ralph and Simon portray the selfless quality to search beyond your greed for material things to find your true desire: to be one with yourself, and one with nature. Although the greed will always reside within you, through finding the voice you can learn to push it aside and live more humbly. Through striving to become more like Ralph and Simon, you'll be able to deal with your fear and learn to face it and realize that you can overcome that fear. You'll be able to strike down the beast and see past the darkness in order to ignite the fire and keep it going.
I believe that Ralph is listening to the voice of his past life. This is the voice of his past morals and his past conscience. This voice has been silenced over time from his life on the island, and while he is there can no longer live by the rules and morals that he used to. He has been changed and affected so much that he can no longer live with the ways of his old life. As a result of the boys being plane wrecked and their attempts to create a civilization themselves, they have almost lost the ability to go back to their old lives. Ralph, however, is the only one who has not lost all memory of the past. He is the one that has the ability to remember, and to get them rescued. This voice is often drowned out by the pressures of life on the island, and Ralph soon begins to lose sight of what is important. He begins to lose sigh of the importance of getting rescued. The voice, however, is always there, even when he can’t hear it. When he falls silent he can hear the voice guiding and cautioning him. I believe that this says a lot about Ralph’s determination and character. He is the only one whose inner voice has not been completely silenced, which shows his good sense and responsibility. I believe that this is why Ralph makes a good leader. With Ralph constantly reminding the boys about keeping the fire going and the importance of getting rescued, they can never completely forget about them. As much as they would like to forget about their old lives and live free on the island, Ralph reminds them to not fully give up on their old customs. I think that these reminders keep the boys alive, and the civilization they have established running.
Behind every decision made, there is some kind of driving cause. Ralph’s decision-making is now ones of desperation. The beast inside himself is surfacing, and Ralph has no way to hide his weakness. Before his realization, he was able to hide his own fears of rescue to himself. Reflecting, looking upon himself, and the lifestyle he was living brought out his fear. The quick and easy way to quench this beast was to feed it with what it wanted, savagery. With savagery, there was no longer problematic leadership, so this shows the ultimate break down of the boys. Inside each one of us is a “beast”, the thing that tells us we can’t succeed, there is no hope of help, and there is no way you can fix this problem. In our daily life, we can tune out our fears. Ralph has been able to do that to a high extent throughout the book. Through his hope of audacity after being voted chief, he tries to provide them with strong decisions and leadership. Just a quick reflection on him in chapter seven caused a major breakdown. The realization of the falling apart of the rest of the group, the complete hopelessness of the situation, forces Ralph to ask himself some tough questions. This is where Ralph follows the beast inside him, the scared beast, and the one that immediately overtook Jack. They both turned to savagery and violence; it distracted them from nagging feelings by producing euphoria from the ability to accomplish something, even if it was killing. Ralph was always in the strongest in the group, holding them together with reason, but he too has fallen into the trap of violence. Just like the mirages the sun makes on the island, the island has put a mirage over their sense of self pride and control. Ralph is hungry for the attention of the boys and their approval. The only way he can see himself being a successful chief is in becoming savage like the rest of the hunters. The boys are in fear, which as Ralph says earlier, cannot hurt you, and turning it into this huge scary beast. With each boy that turns to savagery, this beast grows, until it is too big for the boys to escape or kill. The beast is of their own creation. The beast is within themselves. Without the willpower to fight this beast, the boys have nothing left to keep them from savagery and slight insanity. Many of us have been placed in situations such a Ralph’s. Falling into the trap of your surroundings and peer pressure. The one thing that makes Simon different is he has embraced his fearsome, and used it to shape him and his ability to survive rather than to weaken him. Both Ralph and Simon have the ability to be great leaders, but both must overcome the beast, and only Simon has been successful so far.
I don’t think that he is listening to a real voice. He’s always taking these short moments to collect his thoughts and think of what to do next. I think that he’s trying to think of what an adult would do in the situation. They are in such desperate need of authority and they’ve put Ralph in charge so they have that authoritative figure, but where does that leave Ralph? Who is his leader? He’s just as immature as the rest of the boys when they start on the island, and he does start to mature once he’s been placed in the spot of leader, but at the end of the day, he still just a boy. He must need a leader too, or at least some one to guide him. But because he’s the leader of the whole troop of boys, he doesn’t have one.
When he’s taking these moments to collect his thoughts, I think he’s trying to imagine what his father, the Navy commander, would do. He’s trying to do a good job leading and I think he sees his father as a good model to follow when trying to be a leader. But, he’s never been in a situation like this before with someone else in charge, so Ralph is left to guess about what course of action an adult would take. He hears this voice when everyone’s silent because it’s hard to concentrate when there’s a huge group of kids screaming about pigs and fruit or beasts from the forest.
From each of these characters we can learn something different. From Simon I think we can learn about fear and getting rid of it by being in touch with your surroundings. From Ralph I think we can learn about leadership and frustration. But when talking about these two together, I think we can learn hope during times of desperation. Ralph acts as more of a role model to Simon, but Simon is there to cheer him up and give him hope when he seems so frustrated with their new reality. Simon tells Ralph that he’ll make it home. He gives hope to Ralph who in return is trying to get everyone to work to get them rescued. Together they act as a light, for the boys and the readers, that eventually they will make it home.
I believe Ralph is finally drowning out the input of everything around him, and listening to his inner self. He hears Piggy calling him a kid and another voice telling him not to be a fool, but he isn’t listening to them. He is instead listening to himself. I believe he is finally realizing he doesn’t need his fathers or others to tell him what to do or who he is because he already contains that within himself. He has begun listening to the silent screams of his inner nature. Perhaps he will realize that just because his fair looks and charisma bring him power and leadership he doesn’t necessarily *need* them. But the society he lives in now demands them. I believe he is in a struggle; he needs to either obey what society wants from him or obey what he tells himself. I think in this moment he stops listening to society and starts listening to himself. I think he realizes he has to take more control and become a more powerful influence. I agree with Avalon that his fear of failure is more apparent and that is his personal beast. I believe each of them have a different beast, different fears, and for Ralph it’s losing power and failure. By overcoming this beast he will become the leader he longs to be and he can accomplish this only by listening to “the inner voice of reason.” I believe he is acknowledging his fear and being guiding by the inner voice of himself to overcome this beast. I believe that this voice has been speaking to him constantly, but he has only heard it and never listened to it until now; it has been background noise. Once he does overcome this beast he will become a better leader not just by commitment but by the guidance of this inner voice which advises him about the needs of others and the responsibility he must undertake. By listening to this voice perhaps he can help others hear their inner voices. And I think that he may be able to save the string of civilization that hasn’t been tied into savageness.
I believe Ralph is finally drowning out the input of everything around him, and listening to his inner self. He hears Piggy calling him a kid and another voice telling him not to be a fool, but he isn’t listening to them. He is instead listening to himself and inner reason. I believe he is finally realizing he doesn’t need his father or others to tell him what to do or who he is because he already contains that within himself. He has begun listening to the silent screams of his inner nature. Perhaps he will realize that just because his fair looks and charisma bring him power and leadership he doesn’t necessarily *need* them. But the society he lives in now uses them for it. I believe he is in a struggle; he needs to either obey what society wants from him or obey what he tells himself. I think in this moment he stops listening to society and starts listening to himself. I think he realizes he has to take more control and become a more powerful influence. I agree with Avalon that his fear of failure is more apparent and that is his personal beast. I believe each of them have a different beast, different fears, and for Ralph it’s losing power and failure. By overcoming this beast he will become the leader he longs to be and he can accomplish this only by listening to “the inner voice of reason.” I believe he is acknowledging his fear and being guiding by the inner voice of himself to overcome this beast. I believe that this voice has been speaking to him constantly, but he has only heard it and never listened to it until now; it has been background noise. Once he does overcome this beast he will become a better leader not just by commitment but by the guidance of this inner voice which advises him about the needs of others and the responsibility he must undertake. By listening to this voice perhaps he can help others hear their inner voices. And I think that he may be able to save the string of civilization that hasn’t been tied into savageness.
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I feel like the voice inside of Ralph is like his Jack, his other personality. His voice of reason isn’t heard all the time because by being the chief, he has to make decisions quick, and doesn’t always have time to think them through. Ralph is pressured because every time something has to happen, nobody ever has their own opinions or ideas, aside from Simon and Piggy. From Simon and Piggy, the rest of the boys could learn to voice their own concerns or ideas.
Ralph’s different personalities make it hard for him to be a proper leader. When he becomes silent and listens to the voice of a part of him that is strange to him. He does not know the power of his other self that can control him. Ralph is challenged by his unacquaintedness with his inner self. He does not to know how to embrace the fact that two beings are working inside him.
When Ralph joins Jack and the hunters and wounds a boar, Ralph is overwhelmed with a sense of self-pride. After this event, he feasts for someone to acknowledge the fact that he is perfectly capable of killing. He becomes savage, in the way that before, when the hunters brought a dead pig to the group, he was dismayed. When he kills himself, his feelings change instantly.
In some ways, Ralph could be hypocritical. He does not understand how someone could kill an innocent being, but when he kills himself, he feels as though he could kill a thousand times without feeling anything but pride. This phoniness makes Ralph seem like an incapable chief, who is inept to handle death. I hate to say it, but at this idea I feel like Jack might make a somewhat more competent chief than Ralph, but only in this manner. Jack is not only okay with seeing death occur, but also being the one who causes death.
I think that this is saying that you can’t truly know yourself and what you’re feeling until you stop listing to other people and start listening to yourself. Every day we’re bombarded by thoughts and opinions that aren’t our own. If we don’t take time to be quiet and think about it for ourselves, it becomes difficult to differentiate between what’s ours and what’s someone else’s. This can only be done by ourselves. When talking to other people they will inevitably offer their opinions and will distract you from any conclusion you might have reached yourself. Ralph is learning that when he falls silent he is able to tune out the people around him and objectively decide what to do. Simon too leads by quiet example. He realizes that other people don’t need to validate his thoughts. He gets the confidence to live by himself because he isn’t reliant on other people in the same way as Jack is. Jack is constantly trying to get the others approval. All of his actions are at least partly motivated by other people. He wants everyone to think he is brave by saying he is going to hunt the beast. But once only Ralph and Rodger are with him he gets chicken; all his talk is silencing his inner voice. Jacks sense of self is determined by others and that’s why he changes throughout the book. He is no longer the head boy who “can sing C sharp” (p. 22). The others on the island have shaped him into a new creature. On the other end of the spectrum Ralph and Simon’s characters have remained fairly consistent because they have the ability to listen to their inner voices. Ralph is still a natural leader and Simon is still a nice and quiet who’s in touch with nature and his own nature. I think it’s not what is said that is important; it is what’s left unsaid that really matters.
When a person is about to do something that they think is wrong or something they are not sure about, there is always that inner voice inside them that turns them against it. Ralph is hearing the same voice right now, which is his inner voice, also known as his conscience. This voice is important because it helps a person and guides them through situations that may be tough for them to decide on their own. Ralph is feeling the same way. After being stranded on an island for a long time he has gotten used to the idea that there are no adults around. Along with that he now knows he must learn to keep everyone in order and make sure they don’t do dangerous things. He must also make sure he makes the right decisions for himself in order to keep surviving on this island.
Ralph, being a kid is astonished at the fact that he is stuck on an island with no supervision. He is now getting to experience different types of freedom and is having fun. Along with this he learns that he needs to keep everyone in order because he is the appointed “leader.” By just staying silent he is actually thinking about what decisions to make for his whole community and what would be the best for them. When the rest of the boys want to go to the castle, Ralph doesn’t want to them to because he has grown as individual and learned that they have to be careful in order to survive. When he didn’t this he wasn’t ruining the fun for everyone else, but rather listening to the voice inside him, to guide him into doing what is right.
We can learn a lot from Simon and Ralph by just watching them. From Ralph we can learn a sense of leadership and we come to see his independence. From Simon we learn that he uses common sense in situations which give us a greater respect towards him. When Piggy was left alone with the little ones on the other side of the island, Simon, offered to walk through the darkness alone so Piggy won’t be alone. By watching him use kindness towards other people and common sense we learn that he can make the best out of any situation.
ralph’s inner voice is his hidden beast and ambition speaking out against his external frame of leadership. it is the voice of who he really is in the confusion of the powerful world he’s trapped in. rather than being the voice of ralph’s new identity on the island, it is the voice of who he used to be before his surroundings shaped his personality. before ralph became a member of the island group, he showed his inner beast by treating piggy with disrespect. everyone in the little society on the island, especially jack, and the island’s nature, have shaped ralph into someone other than himself. ralph’s inner voice speaking to him now is the voice of his old self, the parts of him that cannot be changed by this new world that seems to be consuming him. his true voice had been suppressed by the intensity of being chief and his demands of the group in order to maintain some sort of sanity. he is required to talk a lot, being the leader, and this excessive amount of talking has overpowered his ability to listen to the voice inside of him. also, the recent lack of the conch rule has allowed ralph to speak constantly without getting yelled at by jack. this, paired with the high standards and of being chief, have muzzled his own personal and internal voice. now that these physical sounds around him have been silenced, including his own new voice, he can hear the voice of his previously masked beast-like and ambitious features. he is only able to hear this voice when he falls silent; when the concrete voice he has is hushed, his intangible voice can be heard, and ralph can revisit the time when he was not impacted by outside forces, and when the characteristics he possessed were none but his very own.
we can all learn a lesson from ralph through the vigor of the island’s nature, which has the capacity to silence ralph’s inner voice. taking the role of chief and participating in the ignorance of the conch rule aren’t the only reasons why ralph cannot hear his inner voice. it is also the fact that ralph possesses a need to be the speaker, and it seems as though he has very few moments where he stops and makes himself a “transparent eye-ball” [emerson]. we can learn a lesson from ralph’s excessive dialect, and to do this, we need to utilize the fact that he cannot even hear the most important voice in his life anymore. we all need to stop talking sometimes. we all need to realize that we’re not always right. by constantly talking, we smother the internal speech that gives us the most meaning and the best guidance of all. that voice is a fire within each of us. ralph let his fire go out, and now, as he ventures to the top of the mountain to face one of his greatest fears, he sees a small spark of that fire that symbolizes it’s re-ignition. we must all accept the difficulty in silencing a portion of our ideas, and then we must seize that challenge. ralph teaches us a lesson through his talking too much, and from that, the consequential silencing of his inner voice. we all need to shut up sometimes, and simply listen to what our inner voice and what others have to offer.
we can all learn a lesson from simon, also. simon always listens to his inner voice, and he has not let the island phase him or grab hold of his identity. unlike ralph and jack, simon has not given himself to the authority of the island’s nature, and he has maintained this persistence for a great deal of time. we can all accomplish this, no matter how deep we are rooted into the society’s influence. we can learn a lesson from simon’s perseverance by removing ourselves from the negative pressures and manipulations of humanity. we can all strive for something, but the ability to hold on to our own individualities throughout the process is true greatness. the island doesn’t have the power. we do.
I disagree with Halley on this topic, as Ralph is driven by the voice of the island. Inside he hears the voices of society and reason. He acts on the voice that has the most power over him which throughout the story has been the island he is living on. Society cannot push down the beasts of savagery that the island promotes as the island is not governed by its rules. The voice inside him and the voice that he is acting upon are separate, one promoted by society and the other by the island. Ralph is always acting and doing things that are promoted by his inner beast. This is seen when he goes up the mountain with Jack instead of being cautious and doing the right thing of going back to protect Piggy. When Ralph is silent the beast also lays silent and the voice of reason is no longer drowned out by it. In chapter seven we begin to see Ralph turn from rule governed to a hunter that acts to preserve his power in the tribe. Ralph is starting to open his mind and is starting to hear voices such as Piggy’s that he has never heard before. The pressure created by these voices makes Ralph uneasy as he is forced to choose which is right. Ralph makes numerous decisions in this chapter showing that of one who is evolving and thinking.
Simon is the polar opposite of Ralph as he is driven by his own decisions rather than a beast feeding off of his fear. Simon’s personality immediately adapts to the natural world of the island and his identity is shaped with the island. He becomes one with the island and does not fear it, but feeds off of it. Simon listens to his inner voice and is not driven by society or a beast, but only by his own personal choices. From the two characters of Ralph and Simon we can learn the importance of personality and not being governed by something else besides you. Simon is a perfect example of one who is internally and mentally strong unlike the confused Ralph. It is not those on the island that are physically strong that will survive, but it is the mentally strong ones that will.
Whitney Pasternack
April 24, 2008
Hearing Voices, Ralph?
Ralph has become a living contradiction: a boy balanced between beast and human, savage and civil. Though out chapter 7, this dichotomy of mind shows clearly. On the one hand, we see Ralph as one of the last civil boys on the island. He reminisces constantly about his old, “good-humored and friendly” (127) life. A life where adults and order rule, and utter opposite to the chaos of the children’s hierarchy on the island. The civil part of his mind clings to the rules of society which has managed to choke the beast of human nature into near inexistence. He regrets the changes the island has forced on him, and wishes for “a bath, a proper wallow with soap” (123), to wash away the layers of dirt and corruption that have begun to collect on his skin and in his mind. He recognizes the way he is changing and resents it.
At the same time as he clings to these threads of civility, however, he is on a hunt with Jack, physically giving into his savage side. As the predatory frenzy boils inside of him, Ralph thinks less and less about his civility, about protecting the others boys and preserving decency on the island, and more about the power of killing. His concern strays from Jack’s safety to his own success immediately after the immediate danger of the boar has passed, and he is so lost to his beast that he fails to realize how close he comes to hurting one of the boys during the play hunt. Only once the hunt has died down does he begin to return to himself. His “inner voice of reason,” returns to him and forces the beast down. He remembers getting “jolly badly hurt at rugger once” (130). He realizes that their game is quite dangerous, and even if it seems fun, they are hurting each other and themselves without realizing it. Ralph’s civil side has won, at least, for a little while.
When there is nobody around you to tell you what you're doing wrong, you look inside yourself and find your personal voice. When one doesn't talk and thinks within themselves, they hear a voice that is probably the wisest they will hear. Ralph is listening to his instincts and his intuition. However, the voice that comes from within cannot be changed, it is what it is. It cannot sugarcoat itself. Therefore, much of what is going on inside of Ralph are thoughts that will benefit him personally, not the community. He is power-hungry and his inner voice is telling him exactly what he wants and needs to do in order to achieve that power. Only when there are no distractions can Ralph hear this voice. Complete concentration must be achieved before Ralph can listen and think about the ideas this voice is stirring within him. Silence can be a blessing, but it can also be a curse. When Ralph and the other boys are silent, the fear of the beast, both in their own life, and literally on the island can haunt them. However, by being silent as we have seen with Simon, wisdom is acquired. Isolation can be good to first think of yourself, and then after you understand yourself you can finally reach out and understand the community and what needs to be done within it. This is something that Simon has mastered, and Piggy seems to be trying to acquire. Ralph and Jack are alike in the fact that they both are power-hungry in their own way. Jack is savage and has a drive to kill and fight. This is where he acquires power, from the respect he gains when he succeeds in killing something. Ralph is charismatic and wants power to be noticed. He wants everything to go his way and wants no interference. However, in chapter 7 I think that Ralph, Jack, and Simon all realize that in order to survive, they need to listen to each other as well as their inner voices.
By silencing his voice that is audible to others, Ralph is able to listen to the voice that lies deep within him. This voice is harder to listen to: instead of simply hearing it with your ears, you must listen to it with your heart. This is why Ralph must silence his speaking voice: so he is able to focus on his voice of reason. With this voice, Ralph is able to make decisions based on his gut feeling and what he truly believes in. Not only is Ralph listening to the voice of reason, but he is also listening to the voice of leadership. Being a leader is Ralph's true fate. It is proven when Ralph is faced with the choice to go look for the beast, and "something deep in Ralph spoke for him" (page 104). However, Ralph struggles to accept this as his true calling each and every day, and is "thankful to have escaped responsibility for a time" (page 103) when Jack takes the lead through the treacherous jungle. Through this inner calling, Ralph can listen to his heart to seek important information about himself and his way of leading. By pulling this information from his soul, Ralph can reach his full potential of leadership. Throughout the novel, you can see as Ralph evolves from a scared boy who desperately wants to fit in to a true leader. Ralph teaches everyone an important lesson that we can all learn from: in order to be the best you can be you must dig deep inside yourself to find your future. Not listening to the voice inside of you can result disastrously. It’s possible that you could be stuck doing something you hate for the rest of your life. Or perhaps you do not know that what you are doing is not what you are truly supposed to be doing, and there is something so much higher and better that you are completely missing out on. The bottom line is, one should always listen to their instincts to fulfill a happy and successful life.
Jack begins to hear these voices as a result of realizing the mistakes he has made and taking time to look back upon them. He hasn’t had time to take a break and his decisions have been rushed. I think we all need to do this every once and a while. We need to stop rushing, take a step back, and look at something larger than ourselves. We need to look out for each other as much as ourselves.
These past few days have got me thinking; we’re selecting courses for next year, coming up on finals, and our year is coming to an end. Somehow after all of this, I feel like we’ve just begun. The voice in my head is saying, “Slow down,” while it feels like I have to speed up. Like Ralph, I need to work on my time management to make more deliberate decisions. My decisions will make a greater impact on how the end of the year goes and Ralph’s will keep the group together or let it fall apart.
Ralph has chosen to ignore the voices when they are thrown at him and it only takes time for him to figure things out for himself. This applies to almost everything you do in life; you have to break the rules before you understand them. If you’re told something you can’t even get an idea of what the consequences are until you experience them. For Ralph, these rules are set by the island and the consequences are unpredictable. Ralph feels like he should know what to do, when he doesn’t, nor should he. We can all feel this form of humility which is healthy at some point or another; the spotlight is on us and we have no idea of what to do and the answer of, “I don’t know,” is unacceptable.
I agree with Abijohn that the inner voice is his conscious. It’s what he knows is best for the group and only when he stops thinking about being better than everyone and being the chief can he really clear his head and think about the group. I also agree with Abijohn about the other voices. The other voices represent the other parts of Ralph. These parts are savage and selfish. They want only what benefits Ralph. Though I do agree with Abijohn a lot, I disagree with her saying that Jack is savage, because he listens to those voices. Isn’t it Jack’s nature to be savage? So, his inner voice would be telling him to do what’s best for him and to ignore others. And the other voices would be telling him that what he is doing is wrong. I think the inner voice is the one that follows your nature and the other voices are the ones that contradict it. Ralph’s nature is to lead, so his inner voice is telling him to do what’s right for the rest of the group.
From Simon and Ralph we can learn to trust what we know is right. We have to ignore one of the voices, the voice that we know is wrong and focus on the one that we know is more difficult, but to succeed as a leader we have to listen and follow what it is saying. We can especially learn from Simon, because he is more in tune with his inner voice telling him to do what’s best for the group and himself. Simon has learned which of the voices to listen to and I think Ralph is coming to figure his out. But first Ralph has to decide which type of leader he wants to be; an abusive leader or a caring leader.
This voice that Ralph hears is his first time he hears wisdom. This is exemplified by the fact that his personal voice “warned him not to be a fool” (122). The opposite of a fool is a wise person, so he is obviously starting to develop wisdom. What is wisdom you may ask? How can we define such a general and ambiguous term? It would be similar to trying to describe love. Possible, but society has watered down and changed the meaning. But I digress…Francis Scott once said "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function. One should, for example, be able to see that things are hopeless and yet be determined to make them otherwise." Wisdom is a part of intelligence, arguably the most important part. How so? Wisdom is the primary foundation, the glue that holds together a person or a team or society. Wisdom is the ability to think and reason and have your own ideas which sometimes go against society and what it wants from you. "Either you think--or else others have to think for you and take power from you, pervert and discipline your natural tastes, civilize and sterilize you." ~Francis Scott. We need to look at what civilized means. Civilization is the current world we live in. Ralph lives in a different world from the rest of the island, he is not civilized in that sense. HE is the one that has to make sure the fire is going for rescue and take care of everyone. But the island is slowly starting to sterilize him. As it is revealed when he experiences the thrill of hunting, the island is slowly corrupting what he considers normal. “They were dirty…the skin of the body, scurfy with brine…He discovered with a little fall of the heart that these were the conditions he considered normal now and that he did not mind.” (110)
But Ralph is still maintaining the ability to think, but not through any willpower of his own. It is through Piggy. “Piggy was calling him a kid” (122) showing that he lacked the maturity to lead or to have power, but Ralph had it anyways. Piggy feels like a martyred parent (38) that has to keep up with children that are running around without purpose. He thinks of Ralph as a kid, and Ralph begins to think of him more and more like a parent or guardian. Ralph treats “the day’s decisions as a chess game…the only problem that was he would never be a very good chess player.” (117) But Piggy knows how to manipulate the strings of power, although he can’t do it himself. Piggy has given Ralph the wisdom of how to lead, but being wise isn’t always a good thing, because as I know myself, sometimes wisdom is the exact opposite of society. Ralph is showing that he knows how to lead, as he begins to listen to his wisdom. “We’re being fools” (120). No truer words were ever spoken in the book. They are marching up a mountain in the darkness, remember, darkness is the unknown and when the beastie comes out; armed with sticks with little points on them. They are complete fools, trying to kill their own fears with sticks. Illusion has become a reality. The illusion of something trying to kill them has become real, and they actually think it. In fact, this illusion is more powerful than the reality, that “there is no beast”. Ralph has the wisdom to acknowledge “that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself -- nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance.” (FDR) This darkness and terror threatens to blind them all. Ralph is a “Warrior of the Light” because others follow him and trust him to make good decisions. Even though he is blinded by ash and darkness, he is still the first one leading up to see the “beastie”.
In Lord of the Flies Ralph is increasingly becoming more in touch with his fears and true feelings. When he falls silent he is able to realize his fears. At night when everything is silent on the island many of the littuns are haunted and controlled by their fears. During his time in silence he is able to listen to the island which creates more fear within him because he hears every little noise on the island. He becomes a “Transparent Eyeball” as Ralph Emerson says. He gets in touch with the island and finds that the island is a living thing. He also finds that the island isn’t as nice of a place as he thought because the island influences all the kids to create beasts inside of them selves.
During his time in silence Ralph also gets in touch with his inner self. Only when it is very quiet can he hear his inner voice talking too him. He realizes his fears and is able to overcome them when he takes long strides towards the supposed beast. In his time thinking he realizes what his duties as chief should be by examining himself in a self constructed mirror and realizing how he can be better. Through his self examination Ralph realizes that the fears are self created and can be overcome if that fact is realized.
Ralph and Simon can tell us much about how to realize our fears. In chapter seven Simon volunteers to go alone so that Piggy doesn’t have to go through the night alone. He realizes that he will have to face his fears along his journey through the dark alone but goes anyway. Simon realizes that through self examination you can realize that all the fear on the island is self created and that there is no beast. He is able to overcome his fears by going off alone and thinking in the silence of his solitary state. We can learn From Ralph and Simon that we must all overcome our own fears through a process of self examination.
Ralph increasingly begins to listen to the voice within him as he becomes more deeply connected with the island. I think that as we read on, Ralph begins to simply act and make quicker decisions; decisions which are based on the choices of his inner reason and instincts. I believe the first major occurrence of this happens when Ralph makes a split second decision to throw his spear at the pig. “With the boar only five yards away, he flung the foolish wooden stick that he carried, saw it hit the great snout and hang there for a moment”(113). This moment here shows Ralph’s true instincts show how much of a savage and a beast he can be, but more importantly the striking similarities between him and Jack. The island has brought forth Ralph’s inner beast, and his will to control it is overpowered by his will to hunt, kill, and become a savage. I believe Ralph is becoming what he most feared of turning into on the island. In previous chapters Ralph becomes very agitated with Jack’s choice of the island over rescue. However, Ralph is now becoming more like Jack in that he chooses to embrace his time on the island rather than spend time worrying about being saved. This is not entirely Jack’s choice, but rather the choice of the beast within him. The island has extracted the beast within Ralph; although Ralph has done his best to hold back this beast, he cannot and he must listen to his instincts. I believe that we all can learn a valuable lesson from Ralph. To me it is clear that Ralph is becoming a rather power hungry self-centered leader. This shows me that there are no stopping people from being who they truly are or what they are bound to become. It is evident that Ralph is destined to be a leader and he will do anything in his power to attain this. The lesson I have learned in Lord of the Flies is that people are who they are and will stop at nothing to become what they want.
Ralph’s inner voice, in my opinion is telling him what would best fit the tribe an no what just benefits one single person. In this moment on page 122 Ralph made the transition from being Jack to being Simon. Earlier in chapter seven Ralph starts acting like Jack, getting an adrenaline from hunting and starts treating everyone like he’s better than them. As soon as hit hits the pig everyone praises him and he starts to love all the attention that everyone is giving him, “I hit him,’ said Ralph again, ‘and the spear stuck in a bit,’”. Ralph was making sure that everyone in the tribe knew that he hit the pig all by himself. It was almost immediately after that when they start messing with Roger acting like they are going to kill him. During this moment they are treating Roger as if he was a pig. It was once Ralph starting talking with Simon he realizes that it’s not just about yourself its about everyone as a whole. Since they are kids on an island they have to be able to survive together otherwise they will die off. Going back to how the beast is real or not, I think that the beast is just made out of their fears. So if they don’t watch each others backs they will be alone and that’s when their fears will really start to bother them.
In Chapter 7 we see Ralph in a completely different light as he takes on a very Jack-like persona for a few pages. Their congruity in that moment explained to me why Ralph detests him. He sees in Jack the part of himself that he despises. It is their similarity that bothers him so much. In silencing his physical voice he is also silencing the hunger for attention and power therefore suppressing his savageness. He is again silencing the part of himself that he is so ashamed of. By silencing that voice he is bringing out, again, Ralph the responsible leader with a gift for leadership. I believe that the savage side of Ralph is one of his beasts, one that he fights to keep down. His ability to control it is part of what makes him a good leader but when he can’t he is so desperate for more power he will stop at nothing to get it.
Simon’s ability to move past the beast is directly connected to his control of his fears. He is able to realize his fears and than have power over them, instead of the other way around. I think that is the lesson we can ultimately learn from Ralph and Simon. With the realization of our fears we can harness them and then move past them. It is inevitable that there will be things we are afraid of in our lives but at some point we will have the choice to go through the dark forest with the threat of the beast. Only when we can do what Simon did and control our fear can we have the strength to make the journey.
I think that in the beginning of the book when the boys are first on the island Ralph uses his physical voice that is his first idea of what to do. He was making theses decisions very quickly and as result they were not turning out perfect. As their time on the island continues on I think that Ralph realizes that there time on the island maybe a long time. Realizing this makes Ralph slow down his decision making process so it will be more effective. Now that Ralph can listen to his voice deep down he can become a better leader as better ideas arise. These ideas may take longer to think of but if they are better well thought through then it is better than a quick and irrational decision that may not be effective at all. I also think that Ralph hears this voice when he falls silent because he doesn’t have to worry about what he is doing at that time. When the silence falls his mind becomes relaxed allowing him to think about the things that need to be done without the pressure of a decision right away. The way that Ralph is now starting to act is very similar to the way that Simon acts most of time. I think the biggest thing we can learn from Simon and Ralph is to just slow down what you are doing. Don’t make a decision to quickly just take some time to think of what you think will work out best. If you do this then your experience should be much better.
In the beginning Ralph was listening to his physical voice or the voice that only made the easy choices in order to have power. This voice said things quickly and never thought things through. He was only thinking of himself and not for the good of the society, he was only worried about getting off the island instead of surviving with the island on his side. His physical self is always worried about getting power over jack and is completely consumed with that and not worried about the well-being of the community. He isn’t listening to what is right but what is easy for him to get power.
Now the inner voice of reason is coming out and he is making wiser choices about what to do. He is no longer worried about getting the power, he is worried about surviving and doing it the most efficient way he can. When he begins to calm down and to think things through he realizes that the way he is doing things isn’t working and that he needs to rethink survival and how to live on the island. He realized that you don’t need to fight the island for survival but you need to take what the island is giving you in order to survive. He realizes that he needs to make priorities and that need should always trump want. So food and water shouldn’t be one of the main priorities but it should be on his radar. As he is beginning to realize, fire and smoke is the most practical way of survival, without that smoke they won’t be rescued and now after realizing that he has made the smoke one of his main priorities. He has realized that fighting over power with Jack is foolish and that he should just worry about the community and surviving on the island.
Ralph’s encounter with this voice is not a product of him going insane, but rather a product of the past life the used to be a part of. Every day in my life, there is a voice of reason in the back of my head. Without this voice, I would be unable to function in the society that we have created, for this voice acts as another enforcer of rules. For society to work, it is necessary for rules to be present at all times. In the absence of rules, we would devolve into something similar to that of the situation of the boys on the island: savage, selfish, and unresponsive to command. The situation on the island still hasn’t reached the full potential that it has. This is so, for the boys that were placed there are all products of the society that we live in. This society has taught them to constantly question their actions, and stop themselves or others from doing what society has taught them is wrong. Ralph hears this voice when it falls silent, for this voice has lost a large part of the power that it held before. The voice has become a thing of the past, and Ralph only realizes it is still present when the influence of the other boys lessens on him. Jack on the other hand has lost almost all control over himself. He is continuously influenced by the other boys, and does all he can to gain their respect, and power over them. Simon is largely different from the other boys, for he still holds a strong relationship with his inner voice. He has realized that the only way to contact it when not existing in society is to find a place where he can be alone, and in solitude, away from the others, and devoid of their influence.
When Ralph is not leading or talking, his physical voice is silent, his other voices wake up. There are many different kinds of voices in one. The most obvious is the physical, but if one thinks deeply, other voices come to life and become known. There are voices for right vs wrong, or your conscience, voices for reason, voices that help guide you in directions, and voices that give u the insight to make good decisions. Voices happen for every unique situation. In this occasion, Ralph had stopped physically talking, and he was able to think and his reason voice and decisions voice came out. He knew piggy’s voice would call him a child, and another would call him foolish for putting himself in danger. The voice he is really listening to is the voice of his own disapproval. Ralph needs to assert his dominance again, and he is overruling his common sense voice. He is listening to the voice of control, and not the voice of good decisions. Ralph can only make out and distinguish these voices when he is silent and can truly think about himself and the situations he is in and will put himself in. Ralph states he knows piggy would cal him a kid and foolish, yet he listens to his physical voice instead. It is important that we always pay heed to our mental voices because they are really the voices of reason. They know what is best and we need to realize that. Ralph is putting himself fin danger though what he says and not what he thinks.
From both Simon and Ralph, we learn when to follow certain voices. Our physical voice may not always say the same thing our mental voices do. Simon helps teach that we need to rest our physical voice sometimes and just think and listen to the help of our mental ones. He helps show people that the inner voices are just as important as our outer ones. From Ralph, I have been able to take away the need for a balance of our voices. There are times we need to assert our physical ones and times we need to advocate our mental ones, yet we can’t be drowned out by just one of them. Ralph has been paying to much attention to his physical voice without consulting his mental ones. We all need to find a balance so we will make the decisions that will be right for each individual.
I believe that Ralph’s inner voice is him trying to think like the people who have influenced him on and off the island. He is simply asking himself “what would the other leaders do?” Ralph is trying to complete himself as a leader and a person by trying to be like the other leaders and make the same decisions that they would in those situations. The leaders that he is trying to emulate are his father and Piggy. By using these two people’s wise decisions I believe that Ralph will be able to mature into an experienced leader who can lead his people to a safe haven. He will use his father’s leader characteristics of charisma and strength, and will use Piggy’s strength of knowledge to lead the people of the island. The inner voice builds off of responsibility and caring for others. The more you care about people and what happens to them the louder the voice will be and it will influence you. By listening to the inner voice Ralph will be able to transform into the leader that he was destined to become. By combining all the ideas that were brought to his attention Ralph will start to learn about leadership and try different tactics, which will allow him to win power, leadership and possibly converting people from Jack’s faction to his. If Ralph is able to convert the people of the island to his faction, then I believe that the savage nature of the people will slowly disappear from existence. With Jack’s faction gone I believe that the people of the island will have the greatest percent chance of survival. With Ralph leading and Piggy helping him out Ralph will listen to the inner voice and do what he was born to do and lead the people off the island.
When we are alone we are able to connect with our inner soul or ghost. We are generally better people, and can think of things in a more fair and less judgmental way, in which we can connect without environment and put our selves in someone else’s place. When we are alone we don’t need to rush to do things, allowing us to think in ways that we normally couldn’t, in fact this might be the true momentum for my longing to runaway from society.
In the lord of the fly’s we see everyone disconnected from their environments to the extent of where they are able to think of things in a deeper way they couldn’t before. Ralf in the beginning of chapter five is able to grapple with the concept of the many paths one faces in ones life, in which he can finally see that every path has a huge impact on the pedestrian. This teaches Ralf that here on the island they aren’t immortal, and that this could possibly catastrophically change his life forever. To grapple with this you must obviously be in a deeper philosophical trance of sort. This is only because of the position Ralf is in with a abundance of time, and lack of work.
This inner most voice must remain silent in order to progress in life, because it is often shunned by society, and it is thought of as over analysis of something. Yet this inner voice is possibly the only way to achieve a near perfect society. This voice lets us analyze things without interference from outside sources, meaning that if we truly analyzed major problems of hatred, or prejudice we could probably come up with a answer that is fair and could potentially solve these problems, yet society has a hard time recognizing these things, and if we cant recognize this inner voice, than we cant tap into it meaning that society can never truly progress in this fashion without selective citizenship, which it self is contradictory to the point of this.
However I may be wrong, this may not be the best way of thinking. It could only function in a community of limited or no work, which is 100% self sufficient, and this is a impossibility. For all I know this method of thinking could just be an old hermit type of mental disease of some sort. And in reality I don’t think that there is a true one way to do things, in the end it all comes down to perspective. One persons way of doing things, could be the opposite of another’s, and when it all comes down to it I may just be prejudice of this other way of thinking, again contradicting my self.
The class room should be a melding pot where many opinions, ideas, and concepts come to the table, and are discussed until some general consensus is reached, hopefully teaching some people, and opening their eyes to another perspective of something. I don’t know if this is true or not, yet I want to believe so. If the room was simply for the propose of reciting a set of rules or facts to someone then it would be the instruction room, not a room of class, where sophisticated analysis of things are DISCUSED. I don’t criticize the cookie-cutters that sit back in their seats and only speak when asked to, I don’t criticize them for saying that they care about material and learn from it, and take it to heart, but really don’t process the data, but record it. Even if when push comes to shove they only care about the grade, and don’t let the class shape them, they don’t take in what they are spraying. They record it but don’t acknowledge it and so they don’t really learn from them, the class is meaning less, it is just something you do; just like how they say “even if I feel strongly about this it doesn’t matter…it is not important…every one else just sits back and only speaks when asked to, and so I should to”. If this is what a class room is about then screw it, screw you, I will ******* go be a deaf mute, and you won’t convince me other wise. While it may be true that “you shouldn’t swallow what they feed you (automatically)”, I think you also should chew it, and think about it, so we are something more than a living reflection of our environment. You should say your opinion and provide rational for it, just as others should theirs, and you should not be bias and shun any of it you should chew it dam it, and you should take it part, whole, or none. I am not bias, or thinking I am better than any one, I am voicing my opinion, and explaining how I reached the conclusion, and want to say it more than any thing, just as I want to hear what others have to say, and though I may display a façade of anger, or prejudice towards others ideas, I guarantee that I am chewing it, some of the best stuff I have learned has came from the class and those things have shaped my very being, not because they told me to, but because I chewed it, and liked the taste, and let it make a bulge as it went thro my esophagus, saying like a mouse in a snakes stomach it is there, because I swallowed It. I am no owl; I don’t regurgitate every meal, only the ones that I have found a better tenant for. Am I wrong should I just swallow all the shit, or should I regurgitate it all? Do I have the wrong definition of class room; can class only be achieved by conformity? What, do I stop so I don’t bend the spoon, yet I still voice my opinion?
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